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 This should probably be reorganized by shop order, with prices, in-game descriptions, and links to the index categories we've created for each material. Pictures would be nice too.[[Special:Contributions/204.11.142.106|204.11.142.106]] 07:03, 2 May 2016 (PDT)
+:Not sure if these should be tabbed by Keyblade, which would give more room for the item descriptions. The only issue is that there is such strong overlap for stuff like Curative Leaf or Gold Ore.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 14:11, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
+::Can't we just link the names and remove the Found column? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 14:18, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
+:::Sure, but would it be obvious to the readers that that's what we did? Do you have any friends unfamiliar with wikis who you could show such a design to, asking them to figure out where to get info on where to find the materials?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 14:21, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
+::::I'm also interested in replacing the "Keyblade" list with a color-coordinated fill in box, seven columns in total. Similar to Zelda Wiki's Item Cards page, but with colors matched to the Keyblades.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 14:23, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
-{|cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 align="center"
-|valign="top"|[[File:Moogle KHX.png|40px]]||
+== Kupo ==
-{|border=1 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 class="sortable" style="text-align:left; font-size:10px" align="center"
-!bgcolor=#c0c0c0 align="center" style="font-size:12px" width="170"|Material
+Kupo materials drop like Mythril materials. Should we list them in that section?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 19:57, 19 September 2016 (PDT)
-!bgcolor=#c0c0c0 align="center" style="font-size:12px" width="50"|Description
-!bgcolor=#c0c0c0 align="center" style="font-size:12px" width="50"|Price
+== keyblade layouts ==
-!bgcolor=#c0c0c0 align="center" style="font-size:12px" width="50"|Keyblade(s)
-!bgcolor=#c0c0c0 align="center" style="font-size:12px" width="50"|Found
+I tried to tidy it up a bit, but I feel a big problem is that organizing it in the table like this is ''very'' hard to read.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 11:06, 3 April 2017 (PDT)
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+: I think we should figure out a way to make it look organized. I added it because I personally got sick of always clicking through every single keyblade for setups and I think having the corresponding slots on this site might help get an better glance over all keyblades at once without being too detailed. However, I think having the previous upper row be the type and the lower row Upright/reversed is easier to read than just having all of them in a straight line like they are now. Maybe adding some more padding between rows help to make it easier to read while reverting to the previous style. --[[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 12:59, 3 April 2017 (PDT)
-| [[File:Mythril Shard KHX.png|x20px]] {{nihongo|'''{{kh|Mythril Shard}}'''|ミスリルのかけら|Misuriru no Kakera}} || || N/A || All || ''[[:Category:Mythril Shard|See Missions]]''<!--full explanation?-->
+::I've gotta disagree strongly on that. Having them in separate rows, I can't even barely match PSM to UR nodes, much less to the Keyblade in question. My eyes just glaze out, and I've been doing tables for wikis for most of my editing career. Putting them side by side, I can at least pair them visually, while also being able to compare PSM nodes from Keyblade to Keyblade.
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+::Maybe thicker borders or spacing would help more clearly visually isolate these.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 09:56, 5 April 2017 (PDT)
-| [[File:Mythril Stone KHX.png|x20px]] {{nihongo|'''{{kh|Mythril Stone}}'''|ミスリルのしずく|Misuriru no Shizuku}} || || || All || ''[[:Category:Mythril Stone|See Missions]]''<!--full explanation?-->
+::: Yes, I think that's what might be the best compromise. Thick lines between keyblades, and thinner lines in the row itself. Maybe instead of showing the Upright/Reversed symbol, we simply color in the background of the box? --[[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 21:11, 8 April 2017 (PDT)
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+::::Also, in defense of my appraoch of having them above each other, every keyblade site has the same layout and it looks perfectly fine there and is much easier to read at a glance. --[[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 14:01, 9 April 2017 (PDT)
-| [[File:Mythril Gem KHX.png|x20px]] {{nihongo|'''{{kh|Mythril Gem}}'''|ミスリルの魔石|Misuriru no Maseki}} || || || All || ''[[:Category:Mythril Gem|See Missions]]''<!--full explanation?-->
+:::::You don't need to defend your approach. You're not "in trouble" or anything. I'm just pointing out that at least (1) person, and probably more, can't get any usable visual information out of it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 08:56, 10 April 2017 (PDT)
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+::::::Haha, that was a bad choice of word of mine, I'm sorry. But you get what I mean. Anyways, perhaps some more input from outside sources can help. We can leave it like this for now. :) [[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 12:10, 13 April 2017 (PDT)
-| [[File:Mythril Crystal KHX.png|x20px]] {{nihongo|'''{{kh|Mythril Crystal}}'''|ミスリルの結晶|Misuriru no Kesshō}} || || || All || ''[[:Category:Mythril Crystal|See Missions]]''<!--full explanation?-->
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+== Friend medal multipliers ==
-| [[File:Orichalcum KHX.png|x20px]] {{nihongo|'''{{kh|Orichalcum}}'''|オリハルコン|Oriharukon}} || || N/A || All || ''[[:Category:Orichalcum|See Missions]]''<!--full explanation?-->
+https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/7nwub2/khux_divine_rose_stats_update/ds6r5qp/
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+<!--
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+check the formula against these if you wish, but this should be all obsolete
+=== Starlight ===
+* +25 1.726
+* +31 1.882
+* +34 1.936
+* +35 1.96
+=== TT/LL/3W ===
+* +11 1.126
+* +16 1.128
+* +20 1.240
+* +25 1.642
+=== Oly/DR/MoG ===
+* +0  1.006
+* +23 1.576
+* +25 1.648
+* +26 1.678
+* +27 1.696
+* +30 1.756
+=== Lion/Counter/Fenrir ===
+* +1 1.132
+* +2 1.18
+* +3 1.228
+* +4 1.24
+* +5 1.3
+* +6 1.336
+* +7 1.348
+* +8 1.36
+* +9 1.384
+* +10 1.396
+* +11 1.408
+* +12 1.444
+* +13 1.456
+* +14 1.48
+* +15 1.504
+* +16 1.528
+* +17 1.552
+* +18 1.564
+* +19 1.588
+* +20 1.612
+* +28 1.744
+* +31 1.780
+=== Stroke of Midnight ===
+* +23 1.660
+* +29 1.804
+* +35 1.960
+=== [[Fairy Stars]] ===
+* +0   1.180
+* +1   1.204
+* +2   1.228
+* +3   1.252
+* +4   1.288
+* +5   1.384
+* +6   1.408
+* +7   1.432
+* +8   1.456
+* +9   1.480
+* +10  1.504
+* +11  1.528
+* +12  1.552
+* +13  1.576
+* +14  1.600
+* +15  1.612
+* +16  1.636
+* +17  1.672
+* +18  1.696
+* +19  1.720
+* +20  1.744
+* +21  1.768
+* +22  1.804
+* +23  1.828
+* +24  1.852
+* +25  1.888
+* +32  1.972
+* +33  1.984
+* +34  1.996
+* +35  2.020
+=== Ache/Gnaw/Dust ===
+* +0 1.276
+* +1 1.288
+* +2 1.30
+* +3 1.42
+* +4 1.432
+* +5 1.468
+* +6 1.492
+* +7 1.516
+* +8 1.54
+* +9 1.564
+* +10 1.588
+* +11 1.612
+* +12 1.648
+* +13 1.672
+* +14 1.696
+* +15 1.708
+* +16 1.732
+* +17 1.744
+* +18 1.756
+* +19 1.768
+* +20 1.792
+* +21 1.816
+* +22 1.84
+* +23 1.852
+* +24 1.864
+* +25 1.888
+* +26 1.936
+* +28 1.960
+-->
+== Material drops spreadsheet ==
+https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11BEklwQ-RUsHQ9HGPwDWnP2vilMn3WpEGwTWArCmPb0/edit?usp=sharing