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:Not sure if these should be tabbed by Keyblade, which would give more room for the item descriptions. The only issue is that there is such strong overlap for stuff like Curative Leaf or Gold Ore.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 14:11, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
:Not sure if these should be tabbed by Keyblade, which would give more room for the item descriptions. The only issue is that there is such strong overlap for stuff like Curative Leaf or Gold Ore.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 14:11, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
::Can't we just link the names and remove the Found column? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 14:18, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
::Can't we just link the names and remove the Found column? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 14:18, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
:::Sure, but would it be obvious to the readers that that's what we did? Do you have any friends unfamiliar with wikis who you could show such a design to, asking them to figure out where to get info on where to find the materials?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 14:21, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
::::I'm also interested in replacing the "Keyblade" list with a color-coordinated fill in box, seven columns in total. Similar to Zelda Wiki's Item Cards page, but with colors matched to the Keyblades.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 14:23, 5 May 2016 (PDT)


==Notes==
The master list of Keyblade upgrade items.
==Ores==
'''Gold Ore (金の原石)'''


[[:Category:Gold_Ore|Gold Ore]] is a common item used in upgrading Keyblades. It's most reliably found in the Mines in the Dwarf Woodlands.
== Kupo ==


Kupo materials drop like Mythril materials. Should we list them in that section?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 19:57, 19 September 2016 (PDT)


'''Silver Ore (銀の原石)'''
== keyblade layouts ==


[[:Category:Silver_Ore|Silver Ore]] is a common item used in upgrading Keyblades. It's most reliably found in the Mines in the Dwarf Woodlands.
I tried to tidy it up a bit, but I feel a big problem is that organizing it in the table like this is ''very'' hard to read.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 11:06, 3 April 2017 (PDT)
: I think we should figure out a way to make it look organized. I added it because I personally got sick of always clicking through every single keyblade for setups and I think having the corresponding slots on this site might help get an better glance over all keyblades at once without being too detailed. However, I think having the previous upper row be the type and the lower row Upright/reversed is easier to read than just having all of them in a straight line like they are now. Maybe adding some more padding between rows help to make it easier to read while reverting to the previous style. --[[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 12:59, 3 April 2017 (PDT)
::I've gotta disagree strongly on that. Having them in separate rows, I can't even barely match PSM to UR nodes, much less to the Keyblade in question. My eyes just glaze out, and I've been doing tables for wikis for most of my editing career. Putting them side by side, I can at least pair them visually, while also being able to compare PSM nodes from Keyblade to Keyblade.
::Maybe thicker borders or spacing would help more clearly visually isolate these.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 09:56, 5 April 2017 (PDT)
::: Yes, I think that's what might be the best compromise. Thick lines between keyblades, and thinner lines in the row itself. Maybe instead of showing the Upright/Reversed symbol, we simply color in the background of the box? --[[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 21:11, 8 April 2017 (PDT)
::::Also, in defense of my appraoch of having them above each other, every keyblade site has the same layout and it looks perfectly fine there and is much easier to read at a glance. --[[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 14:01, 9 April 2017 (PDT)
:::::You don't need to defend your approach. You're not "in trouble" or anything. I'm just pointing out that at least (1) person, and probably more, can't get any usable visual information out of it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 08:56, 10 April 2017 (PDT)
::::::Haha, that was a bad choice of word of mine, I'm sorry. But you get what I mean. Anyways, perhaps some more input from outside sources can help. We can leave it like this for now. :) [[User:Roberty|Roberty]] ([[User talk:Roberty|talk]]) 12:10, 13 April 2017 (PDT)


== Friend medal multipliers ==
https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/7nwub2/khux_divine_rose_stats_update/ds6r5qp/
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'''Iron Ore (鉄の原石)'''
check the formula against these if you wish, but this should be all obsolete


[[:Category:Iron_Ore|Iron Ore]] is a common item used in upgrading Keyblades. It's most reliably found in the Mines in the Dwarf Woodlands.
=== Starlight ===
* +25 1.726
* +31 1.882
* +34 1.936
* +35 1.96


=== TT/LL/3W ===
* +11 1.126
* +16 1.128
* +20 1.240
* +25 1.642


'''Copper Ore (銅の原石)'''
=== Oly/DR/MoG ===
* +0  1.006
* +23 1.576
* +25 1.648
* +26 1.678
* +27 1.696
* +30 1.756


[[:Category:Copper_Ore|Copper Ore]] is a common item used in upgrading Keyblades. It's most reliably found in the Mines in the Dwarf Woodlands.
=== Lion/Counter/Fenrir ===
* +1 1.132
* +2 1.18
* +3 1.228
* +4 1.24
* +5 1.3
* +6 1.336
* +7 1.348
* +8 1.36
* +9 1.384
* +10 1.396
* +11 1.408
* +12 1.444
* +13 1.456
* +14 1.48
* +15 1.504
* +16 1.528
* +17 1.552
* +18 1.564
* +19 1.588
* +20 1.612
* +28 1.744
* +31 1.780


=== Stroke of Midnight ===
* +23 1.660
* +29 1.804
* +35 1.960


'''Underworld Stone (冥界の石)'''
=== [[Fairy Stars]] ===
* +0  1.180
* +1  1.204
* +2  1.228
* +3  1.252
* +4  1.288
* +5  1.384
* +6  1.408
* +7  1.432
* +8  1.456
* +9  1.480
* +10  1.504
* +11  1.528
* +12  1.552
* +13  1.576
* +14  1.600
* +15  1.612
* +16  1.636
* +17  1.672
* +18  1.696
* +19  1.720
* +20  1.744
* +21  1.768
* +22  1.804
* +23  1.828
* +24  1.852
* +25  1.888
* +32  1.972
* +33  1.984
* +34  1.996
* +35  2.020


[[:Category:Underworld_Stone|Underworld Stones]] are used in upgrading the Olympia Keyblade. It's most reliably found in the Underworld in Olympus Coliseum.
=== Ache/Gnaw/Dust ===
* +0 1.276
* +1 1.288
* +2 1.30
* +3 1.42
* +4 1.432
* +5 1.468
* +6 1.492
* +7 1.516
* +8 1.54
* +9 1.564
* +10 1.588
* +11 1.612
* +12 1.648
* +13 1.672
* +14 1.696
* +15 1.708
* +16 1.732
* +17 1.744
* +18 1.756
* +19 1.768
* +20 1.792
* +21 1.816
* +22 1.84
* +23 1.852
* +24 1.864
* +25 1.888
* +26 1.936
* +28 1.960
-->


== Material drops spreadsheet ==


 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11BEklwQ-RUsHQ9HGPwDWnP2vilMn3WpEGwTWArCmPb0/edit?usp=sharing
 
==Plants==
'''Curative Flower (薬草の花)'''
 
[[:Category:Curative_Flower|Curative Flowers]] are used to upgrade the Starlight and Treasure Trove Keyblades, and are most often found in the Dwarf Woodlands.
 
 
'''Curative Leaf (薬草の葉っぱ)'''
 
[[:Category:Curative_Leaf|Curative Leaves]] are used to upgrade the Starlight and Treasure Trove Keyblades, and are most often found in the Dwarf Woodlands.
 
 
'''Curative Bulb (薬草の球根)'''
 
[[:Category:Curative_Bulb|Curative Bulbs]] are used to upgrade the Starlight and Treasure Trove Keyblades, and are most often found in the Dwarf Woodlands.
 
 
'''Strange Leaf (おかしな葉っぱ)'''
 
[[:Category:Strange_Leaf|Strange Leaves]] are used to upgrade the Lady Luck Keyblade, and are most often found in Wonderland.
 
 
'''Strange Bulb (おかしな球根)'''
 
[[:Category:Strange_Bulb|Strange Bulbs]] are used to upgrade the Lady Luck Keyblade, and are most often found in Wonderland.
 
 
'''Forest Mushrooms (森のきのこ)'''
 
[[:Category:Forest_Mushrooms|Forest Mushrooms]] are used to upgrade the Starlight and Treasure Trove Keyblades, and are most often found in the Dwarf Woodlands.
 
 
 
 
==Liquids==
'''Spring Water (きよらかな水)'''
 
[[:Category:Spring_Water|Spring Water]] is used to upgrade the Starlight and Treasure Trove Keyblades, and is most often found in Daybreak Town and the Dwarf Woodlands.
 
 
'''Swamp Water (沼地のわき水)'''
 
[[:Category:Swamp_Water|Swamp Water]] is used to upgrade the Treasure Trove and Olympia Keyblades, and is most often found in Daybreak Town and the Dwarf Woodlands.
 
 
'''Underworld Water (冥界の水)'''
 
[[:Category:Underworld_Water|Underworld Water]] is used to upgrade the Olympia Keyblade, and is most reliably found in the Underworld in Olympus Coliseum.
 
 
'''Teardrops (涙のしずく)'''
 
[[:Category:Teardrops|Teardrops]] are used to upgrade the Starlight, Lady Luck and Olympia Keyblades, and are most often found in Wonderland.
 
 
'''White Flower Dew (白い花のつゆ)'''
 
[[:Category:White_Flower_Dew|White Flower Dew]] is used to upgrade the Lady Luck Keyblade, and is most reliably found in Wonderland.
 
 
'''White Flower Nectar (白い花のみつ)'''
 
[[:Category:White_Flower_Nectar|White Flower Nectar]] is used to upgrade the Lady Luck Keyblade, and is most reliably found in Wonderland.
 
==Other==
'''Agate Ring (めのうのリング)'''
 
[[:Category:Agate_Ring|Agate Rings]] are used to upgrade the Three Wishes Keyblade, and are most often found in Agrabah.
 
 
'''Topaz Earring (トパーズのピアス)'''
 
[[:Category:Topaz_Earring|Topaz Earrings]] are used to upgrade the Three Wishes Keyblade, and are most often found in Agrabah.
 
 
'''Scarab Brooch (スカラベのブローチ)'''
 
[[:Category:Scarab_Brooch|Scarab Brooches]] are used to upgrade the Three Wishes Keyblade, and are most often found in Agrabah.
 
 
'''Broken Biscuit (お菓子のかけら)'''
 
[[:Category:Broken_Biscuit|Broke Biscuits]] are used to upgrade the Starlight, Lady Luck and Olympia Keyblades, and are most often found in Daybreak Town and Wonderland.
 
 
'''Ember (残り火)'''
 
[[:Category:Ember|Embers]] are used to upgrade the Three Wishes, Olympia, and Treasure Trove Keyblade, and are most often found in Agrabah and Daybreak Town.
 
 
'''Underworld Flame (冥界の炎)'''
 
[[:Category:Underworld_Flame|Underworld Flame]] is used to upgrade the Olympia Keyblade, and is most often found in the Underworld in Olympus Coliseum.
 
 
'''Burnt Coal (燃えつきた炭)'''
 
[[:Category:Burnt_Coal|Burned Coals]] are used to upgrade the Three Wishes Keyblade, and are most often found in Agrabah.
 
 
'''Scorching Sand (熱をおびた砂)'''
 
[[:Category:Scorching_Sand|Scorching Sand]] is used to upgrade the Three Wishes and Olympia Keyblades, and is most often found in Agrabah.
 
 
'''Starry Sand (星のかたちの砂)'''
 
[[:Category:Starry_Sand|Starry Sand]] is used to upgrade the Three Wishes Keyblade, and is most often found in Agrabah.
 
==Mythril==
'''Mythril Shard (ミスリルのかけら)'''
 
[[:Category:Mythril_Shard|Mythril Shards]] are a common item used in upgrading Keyblades. They are obtained by completing Mission Challenges in story quests.
 
 
'''Mythril Stone (ミスリルのしずく)'''
 
[[:Category:Mythril_Stone|Mythril Stones]] are an uncommon item used in upgrading Keyblades. They are most easily found in the weekend Mythril Madness event (NA version) or the Monday Daily Dungeon (JP Version).
 
 
'''Mythril Gem (ミスリルの魔石)'''
 
[[:Category:Mythril_Gem|Mythril Gems]] are an uncommon item used in upgrading Keyblades. They are most easily found in the weekend Mythril Madness event (NA version) or the Monday Daily Dungeon (JP Version).
 
 
'''Mythril Crystal (ミスリルの結晶)'''
 
[[:Category:Mythril_Crystal|Mythril Crystals]] are a rare item used in upgrading Keyblades. They are most easily found in the weekend Mythril Madness event (NA version) or the Monday Daily Dungeon (JP Version).
 
 
'''Orichalcum (オリハルコン)'''
 
[[:Category:Orichalcum|Orichalcum]] is a rare item used in upgrading Keyblades. They are limited in number and are obtained after completing 25 story missions.

Latest revision as of 12:57, 18 September 2018

This should probably be reorganized by shop order, with prices, in-game descriptions, and links to the index categories we've created for each material. Pictures would be nice too.204.11.142.106 07:03, 2 May 2016 (PDT)

Not sure if these should be tabbed by Keyblade, which would give more room for the item descriptions. The only issue is that there is such strong overlap for stuff like Curative Leaf or Gold Ore.KrytenKoro (talk) 14:11, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
Can't we just link the names and remove the Found column? TheSilentHero 14:18, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
Sure, but would it be obvious to the readers that that's what we did? Do you have any friends unfamiliar with wikis who you could show such a design to, asking them to figure out where to get info on where to find the materials?KrytenKoro (talk) 14:21, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
I'm also interested in replacing the "Keyblade" list with a color-coordinated fill in box, seven columns in total. Similar to Zelda Wiki's Item Cards page, but with colors matched to the Keyblades.KrytenKoro (talk) 14:23, 5 May 2016 (PDT)


Kupo[edit]

Kupo materials drop like Mythril materials. Should we list them in that section?KrytenKoro (talk) 19:57, 19 September 2016 (PDT)

keyblade layouts[edit]

I tried to tidy it up a bit, but I feel a big problem is that organizing it in the table like this is very hard to read.KrytenKoro (talk) 11:06, 3 April 2017 (PDT)

I think we should figure out a way to make it look organized. I added it because I personally got sick of always clicking through every single keyblade for setups and I think having the corresponding slots on this site might help get an better glance over all keyblades at once without being too detailed. However, I think having the previous upper row be the type and the lower row Upright/reversed is easier to read than just having all of them in a straight line like they are now. Maybe adding some more padding between rows help to make it easier to read while reverting to the previous style. --Roberty (talk) 12:59, 3 April 2017 (PDT)
I've gotta disagree strongly on that. Having them in separate rows, I can't even barely match PSM to UR nodes, much less to the Keyblade in question. My eyes just glaze out, and I've been doing tables for wikis for most of my editing career. Putting them side by side, I can at least pair them visually, while also being able to compare PSM nodes from Keyblade to Keyblade.
Maybe thicker borders or spacing would help more clearly visually isolate these.KrytenKoro (talk) 09:56, 5 April 2017 (PDT)
Yes, I think that's what might be the best compromise. Thick lines between keyblades, and thinner lines in the row itself. Maybe instead of showing the Upright/Reversed symbol, we simply color in the background of the box? --Roberty (talk) 21:11, 8 April 2017 (PDT)
Also, in defense of my appraoch of having them above each other, every keyblade site has the same layout and it looks perfectly fine there and is much easier to read at a glance. --Roberty (talk) 14:01, 9 April 2017 (PDT)
You don't need to defend your approach. You're not "in trouble" or anything. I'm just pointing out that at least (1) person, and probably more, can't get any usable visual information out of it.KrytenKoro (talk) 08:56, 10 April 2017 (PDT)
Haha, that was a bad choice of word of mine, I'm sorry. But you get what I mean. Anyways, perhaps some more input from outside sources can help. We can leave it like this for now. :) Roberty (talk) 12:10, 13 April 2017 (PDT)

Friend medal multipliers[edit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/7nwub2/khux_divine_rose_stats_update/ds6r5qp/

Material drops spreadsheet[edit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11BEklwQ-RUsHQ9HGPwDWnP2vilMn3WpEGwTWArCmPb0/edit?usp=sharing