Talk:Starlight

More compact page for keyblades

Instead of a table for each +1, have one gigantic table, like this:

Image	Strength	Special Attack Gauges	Slot					Upgrade Materials
			1	2	3	4	5
	0	9	x1.08	x1.0	x1.0	x	x	Default
	+1		x1.12			x	x	Mythril Shard x3		Curative Leaf x2
	+2		x1.12		x1.04	x	x	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Stone x1	Curative Leaf x4	Curative Bulb x2
	+3		x1.12		x1.08	x	x	Mythril Shard x3	Spring Water x9	Curative Flower x1	Copper Ore x6
	+4	12	x1.16		x1.12	x1.08	x	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Stone x3	Orichalcum x1
	+5		x1.16	x1.08	x1.16	x1.08	x	Mythril Shard x3	Curative Leaf x2	Copper Ore x11	Teardrops x6
	+6		x1.16	x1.08	x1.20	x1.12	x	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Stone x5	Forest Mushrooms x18	Gold Ore x2
	+7		x1.20	x1.12	x1.20	x1.12	x	Mythril Shard x3	Curative Flower x5	Spring Water x14	Broken Biscuit x12
	+8		x1.20	x1.12	x1.24	x1.12	x	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Crystal x1	Iron Ore x20	Curative Bulb x17
	+9		x1.20	x1.16	x1.24	x1.16	x	Mythril Shard x3	Copper Ore x16	Silver Ore x10	Teardrops x9
	+10		x1.20	x1.16	x1.28	x1.20	x	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Gem x3	Curative Flower x8	Iron Ore x25
	+11	15	x1.24	x1.20	x1.28	x1.24	x1.0	Mythril Shard x3		Orichalcum x2
	+12		x1.24	x1.24	x1.32	x1.24		Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Gem x5	Curative Leaf x28	Spring Water x20
	+13		x1.24	x1.28	x1.32	x1.24		Mythril Shard x3	Copper Ore x20	Silver Ore x15	Gold Ore x17
	+14		x1.28	x1.28	x1.32	x1.24		Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Crystal x1	Curative Bulb x25	Teardrops x12
	+15		x1.28	x1.32	x1.32	x1.28	x1.16	Mythril Shard x3	Curative Leaf x36	Copper Ore x27	Spring Water x28
	+16		x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	x1.28	x1.24	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Crystal x3	Silver Ore x17	Forest Mushrooms x34
	+17		x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	Mythril Shard x3	Curative Flower x10	Iron Ore x30	Broken Biscuit x20
	+18		x1.36	x1.32	x1.32	x1.36	x1.32	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Crystal x5	Forest Mushrooms x36	Spring Water x21
	+19		x1.36	x1.36	x1.36	x1.36	x1.36	Mythril Shard x3	Curative Flower x14	Iron Ore x33	Silver Ore x21
	+20		x1.40	x1.40	x1.40	x1.40	x1.40	Mythril Shard x3	Mythril Crystal x10	Copper Ore x36	Gold Ore x20
	+21		x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x1.60	x1.40	x1.40 File:Reverse icon KHUX.png x1.60	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x1.60	x1.40	Mythril Shard x3	File:Adamant KHX.png Adamant x1	Curative Leaf x105	Copper Ore x70
	+22		x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x1.80	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x1.60	x1.40 File:Reverse icon KHUX.png x1.75	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x1.60	x1.40	Mythril Shard x3	File:Adamant KHX.png Adamant x1	Silver Ore x23	Curative Leaf x55
	+23		x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.10	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x1.60	x1.40 File:Reverse icon KHUX.png x1.75	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.00	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x1.80	Mythril Shard x3	File:Adamant KHX.png Adamant x2	Copper Ore x90	Spring Water x44
	+24	16	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.10	x1.60 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.00	x1.50 File:Reverse icon KHUX.png x2.00	x1.40 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.00	x1.60 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.10	Mythril Shard x3	File:Adamant KHX.png Adamant x3	Mythril Stone x3	Mythril Gem x3
	+25	17	x1.60 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.35	x1.60 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.00	x1.60 File:Reverse icon KHUX.png x2.00	x1.60 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.30	x1.60 File:Upright icon KHUX.png x2.10	Mythril Shard x3	File:Adamant KHX.png Adamant x4	Mythril Stone x5	Mythril Crystal x5

The problem with your idea, is that there are people that uses mobile devices to look at the wiki, since, you know, this is a iOS game. So actually, a giant table would be inpractical for navigating on mobile devices. - Kikuhime

Would be useful if it was slimmed down a lot, and maybe turn the material images into links to the material article, removing their text name.KrytenKoro (talk) 08:25, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

Looking at it on both a tablet and phone it looks fine on both desktop and mobile views. The mobile on the phone may require you to slide you screen to the side to see the rest of the materials needed to upgrade, but that's hardly a problem and certainly easier than moving down and down and down which is what you have to do with the current set-up. Not only that, but this table allows readers to quickly find what they're looking for. Honestly, the only table of contents that should be that long should be something like a Gameplay page. I understand why it was done here, but if a person doesn't know exactly what upgrade they want information for they have to go through each upgraded table looking for it, whereas this table is compact and you can easily find whatever you're looking for with only a glance or two. I think this set up is more practical when viewing on a mobile than what's currently there, but YMMV. Rikki21 (talk) 15:42, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

It still needs to be much thinner. As far as the TOC goes, we can easily resolve that by just adding the "notoc" template.KrytenKoro (talk) 16:25, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

Also, I really don't think we should use colspan here.KrytenKoro (talk) 16:26, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

Any reason why it has to be thinner? For easier readability on phones? I'm fine with someone tweaking it to make it more readable or better if we decide to use this as opposed to what's there currently. There's probably a lot of code that isn't really needed in this, tbh. Don't use the colspan where? -Rikki21 (talk) 16:37, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

It should be thinner because there's a ton of whitespace and having to slide left and right on phones is actually pretty annoying.

For the colspan, I mean on those where there are less than four ingredients. It looks weird, and puts Mythril items as if they are in the same category as pickup items.KrytenKoro (talk) 16:56, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

In general, we should endeavor to make the table as thin as possible, which may entail abbreviating headers or removing text that can be treated as redundant.KrytenKoro (talk) 16:58, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

How's this for a start?KrytenKoro (talk) 17:17, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

	LV	SP	Slots					Materials
			Magic	Speed	Power	N/A	N/A
	0	9	x1.08	x1.00	x1.00	X	X	Default
	+1		x1.12	x1.00	x1.00			x3	x2
	+2		x1.12	x1.00	x1.04			x3	x1	x4	x2
	+3		x1.12	x1.00	x1.08			x3	x9	x1	x6

	LV	SP	Slots					Materials
			Magic	Speed	Power	Speed	N/A
	+4	12	x1.16	x1.00	x1.12	x1.08	X	x3	x3	x1
	+5		x1.16	x1.08	x1.16	x1.08		x3	x2	x11	x6
	+6		x1.16	x1.08	x1.20	x1.12		x3	x5	x18	x2
	+7		x1.20	x1.12	x1.20	x1.12		x3	x5	x14	x12
	+8		x1.20	x1.12	x1.24	x1.12		x3	x1	x20	x17
	+9		x1.20	x1.16	x1.24	x1.16		x3	x16	x10	x9
	+10		x1.20	x1.16	x1.28	x1.20		x3	x3	x8	x25

	LV	SP	Slots					Materials
			Magic	Speed	Power	Speed	Magic
	+11	15	x1.24	x1.20	x1.28	x1.24	x1.00	x3	x2
	+12		x1.24	x1.24	x1.32	x1.24	x1.00	x3	x5	x28	x20
	+13		x1.24	x1.28	x1.32	x1.24	x1.00	x3	x20	x15	x17
	+14		x1.28	x1.28	x1.32	x1.24	x1.00	x3	x1	x25	x12
	+15		x1.28	x1.32	x1.32	x1.28	x1.16	x3	x36	x27	x28
	+16		x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	x1.28	x1.24	x3	x3	x17	x34
	+17		x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	x1.32	x3	x10	x30	x20
	+18		x1.36	x1.32	x1.32	x1.36	x1.32	x3	x5	x36	x21
	+19		x1.36	x1.36	x1.36	x1.36	x1.36	x3	x14	x33	x21
	+20		x1.40	x1.40	x1.40	x1.40	x1.40	x3	x10	x36	x20

	LV	SP	Slots					Materials
			Magic File:Solar Gem KHX.png	Speed File:Solar Gem KHX.png	Power File:Lunar Gem KHX.png	Speed File:Solar Gem KHX.png	Magic File:Solar Gem KHX.png
	+21	15	x1.40 x1.60	x1.40 x1.00	x1.40 x1.60	x1.40 x1.60	x1.40 x1.00	x3	File:Adamant KHX.png x1	x105	x70
	+22		x1.40 x1.80	x1.40 x1.60	x1.40 x1.75	x1.40 x1.60	x1.40 x1.00	x3	File:Adamant KHX.png x1	x23	x55
	+23		x1.40 x2.10	x1.40 x1.60	x1.40 x1.75	x1.40 x2.00	x1.40 x1.80	x3	File:Adamant KHX.png x2	x90	x44
	+24	16	x1.40 x2.10	x1.60 x2.00	x1.50 x2.00	x1.40 x2.00	x1.60 x2.10	x3	File:Adamant KHX.png x3	x3	x3
	+25	17	x1.60 x2.35	x1.60 x2.00	x1.60 x2.00	x1.60 x2.30	x1.60 x2.10	x3	File:Adamant KHX.png x4	x5	x5

Looks great! We should also do hover captions for the items and slots. Do we have a page to link the medal pictures to? Otherwise we should remove the picture link. Rikki21 (talk) 19:06, 5 May 2016 (PDT)