Template talk:JPSets
Not sure if set 8 or 9
- 535-536 Riku Child Ver.
- 537-538 Kairi Child Ver.
They are part of Set 9 as they were released on 5/2. Seiki 12:31, 4 June 2016 (PDT)
- Also, not sure which all medals on the template are event medals.KrytenKoro (talk) 06:28, 6 June 2016 (PDT)
- Child Riku, Child Kairi, Darkside, Terra/Ven/Aqua, & Original Goofy are all the event medals. Seiki 11:16, 6 June 2016 (PDT)
- Illustrated Sephiroth and Kairi are in the permanent pool?KrytenKoro (talk) 12:03, 6 June 2016 (PDT)
- They're premium medals. They're not permanent but they aren't event at all. If they are to be given the gold lettering like event medals, then the same should be done for all premiums. Although if we were to distinguish them with a color, I'd feel it best they get a different one to define them as premiums.Seiki 23:01, 7 June 2016 (PDT)
- I don't get the distinction, but I thought the whole point of distinguishing these was to point out which were limited time and which were permanent. Can you clarify?KrytenKoro (talk) 05:25, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
- Event medals are distributed via actual events and are called Events. These are distributed via unusual ways such as how Snow White & Seven Dwarves recently was in the NA version (Drops from very specific limited time missions) or how Timeless River Mickey was distributed; which was as a reward for completing the Proud Quests. These medals are not at all part of the pool and never will be. In fact, aside from a very select few, most of these cannot be bought with Jewels at all.
- Premium medals are different however. They are distributed within the pool and nowhere else much like normal medals. However they are much rarer than normal medals and only available from the 10 medal deal. To get one, you must spend an absurd amount of Jewels and mostly rely on luck. The only way to get a guaranteed one is in Japan is if you spend about 30,000 Jewels. If you fail to get it from the 10-Draw 10 times in a row, the 10th draw will give it to you out of pity. This guarantee does not exist in the NA version. These are only available for one week then never again, similar to Event Medals, but they are still part of the draw pool, albeit temporarily. These medals are all medals listed here under the Limited Medals category. They are named in-game as Limited/Premium medals and are not defined as Event medals by the game as it is not an event but a chance for a rare and powerful medal during the weekly draw. Seiki 13:10, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
- I was not aware the game made any internal distinction between types of Medals. Can you direct me where to look?
- In any case, I don't think we're addressing the larger point -- while the earlier draft of the navboxes may have actually called these medals "Event medals", this version does not -- the highlighting is just picking out Medals which are permanent versus those that are temporary. Can you help me understand why we would need to further differentiate these into Event vs. Limited Medals (or even Event vs. Common vs. Limited vs. Farmable Medals), and how we would communicate what each highlighting means to our readers? My own opinion is that this distinction would be better served on the individual medal articles.204.11.142.106 13:19, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
- I don't get the distinction, but I thought the whole point of distinguishing these was to point out which were limited time and which were permanent. Can you clarify?KrytenKoro (talk) 05:25, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
- They're premium medals. They're not permanent but they aren't event at all. If they are to be given the gold lettering like event medals, then the same should be done for all premiums. Although if we were to distinguish them with a color, I'd feel it best they get a different one to define them as premiums.Seiki 23:01, 7 June 2016 (PDT)
- Illustrated Sephiroth and Kairi are in the permanent pool?KrytenKoro (talk) 12:03, 6 June 2016 (PDT)
- Child Riku, Child Kairi, Darkside, Terra/Ven/Aqua, & Original Goofy are all the event medals. Seiki 11:16, 6 June 2016 (PDT)
Does all this even matter for the set template? Maybe we should have a permanent and temporary pool template instead. Event medals are only available during the events, premium medals are only in the draw pool for 1-2 weeks and some other medals like Jack Skellington are removed from the pool for different reasons. The release date date of any medal could be included in the infobox or on a set page and that's that. --ShardofTruth (talk) 13:30, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
As for in-game, it's typically found in the notices. I don't know Japanese but I have heard others claim terms like Limited/Premium come from the Japanese version when no such terms are present in NA. This is likely found in either the notices or names of the special drops for them. Otherwise, the Event medals are often distributed via missions in the "Event" tab on the game menu. Notices will call the methods to obtain them as "Events" in the notices as well; however the medals themselves aren't called anything more than medals. I do agree the distinction is better served in the individual medal pages, my main point is that if the creator/designer of the newer navbox were to change the coloring for Premium medals, it would have to be done so for ALL premium medals as Set 3 has Sephiroth with normal colors as does Set 4 with Pooh & Piglett and Cloud Illus ver. Set 8 has Boss Marluxia, Illus. Ventus, & Illus. Terra using normal medal colors. Yet, this issue has only come up in regards to Set 9's Illus. Kairi & Sephiroth.
While on the subject, I feel different colors are strange altogether and aren't clear to all as a Limited vs Permanent thing unless you know the medals before hand and know that they are. Frankly, I thought gold stood solely for Event and this confusion is part of what lead to this discussion in the first place. Especially since the original question asked were which medals are event medals and Premium medals are not Event medals. I prefer the older style that lists them by type as opposed to all together in numerical order. Also, on the medal page, I find it a bit of an eye-sore to have all of the templates there at the bottom as it takes up over half the page with templates alone. Perhaps if they were collapsible it would be better, but as is, I find the table that directed to the categories for each set to be much more visually pleasing. Seiki 14:00, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
- I'm trying to convert the prior templates to a more sleek feel -- organizing them by type takes up almost three times the space -- and am going on what were called event medals in the previous templates. If I've missed any temporary medals, please correct them. I've put in a request to have the collapsible class added, so we're waiting on Dciuch, but having just links to the categories looks...unaesthetic, and comes off as "bare minimum coding" to me. Having them all present in the navboxes, especially once those are finished being reformatted and are collapsible, will more closely replicate the album than the alphabetized categories would, and requires less clicking for the reader.KrytenKoro (talk) 14:31, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
- Is there any particular reason we don't have the wikipedia style Navbox template? That navbox is much more customization and it should be able to collapse. We'd need to install the Module:Navbox for it to work, but it should be simple to just import both of them (though it seems only Admins can import on the wiki). I don't really understand the need for the id# either, tbh. It just seems to clutter the navboxes to include them since their album ID# is on individual medal pages anyway. -Rikki21 14:56, 8 June 2016 (PDT)
- I'm trying to convert the prior templates to a more sleek feel -- organizing them by type takes up almost three times the space -- and am going on what were called event medals in the previous templates. If I've missed any temporary medals, please correct them. I've put in a request to have the collapsible class added, so we're waiting on Dciuch, but having just links to the categories looks...unaesthetic, and comes off as "bare minimum coding" to me. Having them all present in the navboxes, especially once those are finished being reformatted and are collapsible, will more closely replicate the album than the alphabetized categories would, and requires less clicking for the reader.KrytenKoro (talk) 14:31, 8 June 2016 (PDT)