Notes
1 Moogle - 1000 3 Moogle - 3500 5 Moogle - 12200 6 Moogle - 32000
Moogle Book of Prophecies medals
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Mission Template
Instead of lazily creating pages by copy pasting the text from the old mission pages, why don't you just use the mission template? http://www.khunchainedx.com/wiki/Template:InfoMissionKHUX Kikuhime (talk) 18:54, 9 May 2016 (PDT)Kikuhime
Medals Template
I was looking over this and still have some questions and/or suggestions regarding the stats.
- Calculating the attack/defense stats is a great idea, I'll try to get the values for each level with the JP version since leveling up only one level is quite costly and I don't have that munny in the NA version yet. Do you already have a spreadsheet for this? It seems that stat progression and exp consumption are different for each rarity range.
- Putting the damage/ability multiplier on the page for the attack itself and not in medal info box is fine I guess. What's clear is that once you can fuse duplicates with a medal you can get the ability multiplier for the higher rarities. You have to see it this way: Each rarity has an ability multiplier, at 3 stars you can fuse another medal which give the 4 star multiplier, at 4 stars you can fuse two medals which give the 5 star and 6 star multiplier, at 5 stars you can fuse three medals which give the 6 star, 6 star+1 and 6 star+2 multiplier and so on and so forth. The only abilities with different target modes (and therefor cost and ability multipliers) are currently "Reset", "Protect Down" and "Strength Boost" in the NA version.
- EXP from a medal with the same attribute is increased by 1.5, EXP from a duplicate medal with an additional 1.5 (meaning 2.25 in total, always rounded down). I don't know how experience from an already leveled medal is transferred exactly, it doesn't make much sense to me. The value seems to be depended on the medal's rarity and level but not the actual exp it already has. You should also check out this data here.
- The sell price is fixed for most medals, here is a small table. Every attack medal's level adds another 30 munny to the sell price, every filled ability multiplier slot sells for one Avatar Coin.
| Attack Medals | Attack Medals | EXP medals | Other | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rarity | EXP | Sell price | EXP | Sell price |
| ★1 | 30 | 90 | 260 | 90 1000 (Moogle) |
| ★2 | 40 | 120 | N/A | 120 |
| ★3 | 70 | 210 | 1400 | 210 3500 (Moogle) |
| ★4 | 100 | 360 | N/A | 360 |
| ★5 | 400 | 12200[?] | 5210 5150 (Scrooge) |
450 122000 (Moogle) |
| ★6 | 15210 | 32000[?] | 15210 15150 (Scrooge) 68445 (Triple) |
800 32000 (Moogle) |
Are you planning to tab the medals that are different in the NA and JP version (only Nick and Judy so far). --ShardofTruth (talk) 07:24, 15 May 2016 (PDT)
- I just noticed another thing about EXP. You don't necessarily have to use a duplicate to get the other 1.5 exp bonus, it will work on all medals that have the same ability. For example leveling up Pence with Olette (or vice versa) will give you a 1.5 bonus even though they don't have the same attribute.
- If an ability is the same for different medals nothing seems to differ, not the multiplier, gauge cost or the description for the various levels.
- As for the ability multiplier: It only changes when you evolve the medal to a higher rarity or fuse with a duplicate to fill a dot. It's heavily tied to the ability of the medal but I think it can be determined once you knoww at least two multipliers to get the increment. Here are five examples:
| Rarity | Blizzard Raid | Thunder Raid | Fire Raid | Sonic Break min | Sonic Break max | Curaga | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ★1 | 1,35 | 1,54 | 1,75 | 1,89 | 2,93 | N/A | ||||||
| ★2 | 1,37 | 0,02 | 1,57 | 0,03 | 1,79 | 0,04 | 1,92 | 0,03 | 2,96 | 0,03 | N/A | |
| ★3 | 1,39 | 0,02 | 1,6 | 0,03 | 1,83 | 0,04 | 1,95 | 0,03 | 2,99 | 0,03 | 1,39 | |
| ★4 | 1,41 | 0,02 | 1,63 | 0,03 | 1,87 | 0,04 | 1,98 | 0,03 | 3,02 | 0,03 | 1,41 | 0,02 |
| ★5 | 1,43 | 0,02 | 1,66 | 0,03 | 1,91 | 0,04 | 2,01 | 0,03 | 3,05 | 0,03 | 1,43 | 0,02 |
| ★6 | 1,47 | 0,04 | 1,72 | 0,06 | 1,99 | 0,08 | 2,07 | 0,06 | 3,11 | 0,06 | 1,47 | 0,04 |
| ★6+1 | 1,51 | 0,04 | 1,78 | 0,06 | 2,07 | 0,08 | 2,13 | 0,06 | 3,17 | 0,06 | 1,51 | 0,04 |
| ★6+2 | 1,55 | 0,04 | 1,84 | 0,06 | 2,15 | 0,08 | 2,19 | 0,06 | 3,23 | 0,06 | 1,55 | 0,04 |
| ★6+3 | 1,59 | 0,04 | 1,9 | 0,06 | 2,23 | 0,08 | 2,25 | 0,06 | 3,29 | 0,06 | 1,59 | 0,04 |
| ★6+5 | 1,63 | 0,04 | 1,96 | 0,06 | 2,31 | 0,08 | 2,31 | 0,06 | 3,35 | 0,06 | 1,63 | 0,04 |
| ★6+6 | 1,67 | 0,04 | 2,02 | 0,06 | 2,39 | 0,08 | 2,37 | 0,06 | 3,41 | 0,06 | 1,67 | 0,04 |
As you can see the increment simply doubles from rarity 6 onwards. Some multipliers have a lower and an upper limit but the growth is the same. --ShardofTruth (talk) 02:49, 16 May 2016 (PDT)
Worlds
So then the entire world category with it's sub-categories should be deleted, essentially. -Rikki21 16:02, 13 June 2016 (PDT)
- How about the Category:Characters. Should we categorize the medals with those categories? Or should that get deleted as well? -Rikki21 16:18, 13 June 2016 (PDT)
Buff, Debuff, Healing
Even though the game doesn't differentiate, it seems like we should. Being able to look at a category and know 'these are all medals that buff' seems very helpful to me. I know we have special attack, but if I don't know the name of the buff/debuff/heal skill I won't know what medals do it, you know? -Rikki21 05:40, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
- Shouldn't we organize Special Attack by that, then? It just seems weird to put non-stats into the statbox -- if it was a category outside the infobox, maybe, but it's all variations of Cure, Strength Boost, and Defense Boost anyway.KrytenKoro (talk) 05:50, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
Last Image Change
When you renamed the page and the image for http://www.khunchainedx.com/wiki/Marluxia_Boss_Ver. , the medal image no longer shows up, fix it. Thank you. Kikuhime (talk) 06:48, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
- It's because the image is a jpg, I believe. I need to use GIMP, which I don't have access to until after work.KrytenKoro (talk) 06:49, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
New Template Suggestion
I was looking at the new template, and i got an idea to add the maxed stats into it. I don't know if it can be possible, but maybe you can add a tab inside the info box when the medal is 6 stars that shows the maxed out stats of the medal. Maybe something like with the Mission template with the small arrow, or just a button that says "Max Stats" or something like that. I don't know how to code at all, but maybe you guys can give that idea a try and see if it fits properly and make it work. That could help out alot.
- It would definitely be doable -- the main issue that Shard and I had been discussing is that there definitely seems to be a generic progression (meaning you should always be able to calculate max stats given the 6* stats), and so we could conceivably just cover the progression on the main Medal page. We're still playing with the numbers to find the best fit curve, but if it turns out we're wrong, we would agree to going back to having max stats.
- That being said, I'm not in charge of anything -- if the community doesn't want to wait on Shard and me, let us know and we'll revise the template to have MAX coverage.KrytenKoro (talk) 11:35, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
Musketeer medals
What are the Musketeer medals? -Rikki21 20:40, 14 June 2016 (PDT) Figure it out. -Rikki21 21:09, 14 June 2016 (PDT)
Max Stat Images
I noticed some max stat images have {{delete}}. Are we planning to delete all of them? -Rikki21 21:23, 15 June 2016 (PDT)
- I mean, we're not using them in articles anymore. If we make a note of all the depicted stats somewhere (like on Template talk:InfoMedal), we have no need for them.KrytenKoro (talk) 05:22, 16 June 2016 (PDT)
Template Problem
Is the normal Template under revisions? I noticed that the Cid and medals that shows US and JP differences on their stats are displayed without the tab that corresponds to that medal. Kikuhime (talk) 11:31, 16 June 2016 (PDT)